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Steve
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I've heard estimates of around 200-300 probably survived. Has anyone ever researched this particular coin through auction sales, coin shows etc. to try and verify this estimate?

November 23, 2009 at 8:54 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Bill
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I always heard by word of mouth but really not reading it personally where it is documented. I would assume it is less than 200 as it shows a total of 41 certified in a combined population report between the 3 TPG.

November 24, 2009 at 11:09 AM Flag Quote & Reply

birbros
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One sold on Ebay recently for $2000., There is one up for auction at Heritage website start 1250. raw xf details, scratches in the fields. est. price 2500-3000 lot 22635.

 

Mr. Lapous jr of PhilippineCoins.com believes there is only about 100 and most were cleaned. And of the few that I have saw were.

December 24, 2009 at 11:03 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Bill
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The one sold on ebay did not attract too many bidders as I think the coin is cleaned and or tooled. Also the seller did not claimed the coin to be a problem free but only emphasized the coin being genuine. If that coin is a problem free, then I think the hammered price would have been higher.

December 25, 2009 at 4:02 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Neth
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I have heard from dealers of long standing in Philippine coins that they estimate from 1000 to 2000 1906-S pesos existed after the recall for silver value, There is a belief that a bag (2000) coins $1000 eqiv. was released. I have seen a number of 06-S's chopmarked. Lots of silver pesos were sent to china. Who knows how many were melted. Best guess would maybe a 1000 left extant.

August 3, 2012 at 9:38 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Jhinton
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I would find it very hard to belive that there are 1,000 left. I see a lot more proofs with mintages of 500 or less than I do of 1906-S pesos.

PCGS has graded 28, NGC 17, and ICG 3. Thats 48 assuming no crossovers or upgrades which is unlikly. Assuming there are a decent amount unknown or in foreign collections, i would find it hard to belive that there are more than 200 genuine 1906-S pesos in existance. 

August 6, 2012 at 4:41 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Neth
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My numbers came from two old time specialist dealers in Philipiine coins with each having 50+ years dealing in USPI numismatics and living in the philippines and southeast asia.  I asked them the same question years ago ( I have collected this series for 37 years). There answers were from 750 to 1000 as I recall so maybe 1000 is at the upper end. No one will ever know for sure. Many many counterfeits so this adds to the confusion, but our knowledge of the die diagnostics is better now also.

 Also consider not going by just  slabbed counts. The vast  majority of 1906-s pesos have been cleaned or messed with precluding them from slabbing. Most coins out of the philippines have been cleaned as that is their way. I have seen a number that have beeen chopped marked also.  Most serious collectors of USPI coins have at least one, maybe more. I have three and don't want another. There was a wealthy dealer in the philippines now deceased who on good accounts owned 30+ pieces. When he passed most stayed in the philippines. I know a state side dealer who accumulated around 15 pieces in a little over a year. Many dealers know of the mistique of the 06-S peso and have one or more put away. I have run into this too. Usually they won't sell it, its kind of bragging rights. I heard an NGC 61 sold on the bourse floor at the Philly ANA show.  So they are out there.

 

August 13, 2012 at 9:01 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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